UL to STG by Jefferson 01-28-2004: Bob Dylan BBC, London, United Kingdom June 1, 1965 LK Upgrade (see notes) First show (Broadcast on June 19th, 1965) 01 - Ballad Of Hollis Brown 05:18 02 - Mr Tambourine Man 06:27 03 - Gates Of Eden 07:16 04 - If You Gotta Go, Go Now 02:47 05 - Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll 06:22 06 - It Ain't Me Babe 04:12 Second show (Broadcast on June 26th, 1965) 07 - Love Minus Zero/No Limit 03:51 08 - One Too Many Mornings 04:22 09 - Boots Of Spanish Leather 06:44 10 - It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) 09:08 11 - She Belongs To Me 04:47 12 - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue 05:07 ---------------------------------------- NOTES from the generous donator: A few months ago when word of this release emerged, I was asked my opinion as to whether it was a new PA tape or just a remaster. It turned out that it is just a remaster (it is an improvement, but how much of an improvement is very subjective...) Anyway in the course of my investigation I listened to: - BBC Broadcast (the original vinyl bootleg) - The Circus is in Town - the BBC 65 broadcast in the 1965 box set - At the Beeb - I also listened to a very old 'non-bootleg' tape I've had for around 20 years. These are all derived from the same source tape (a mic in front of a TV set). IMHO the quality of the CDs is pretty straight forward with 'Circus' worst and 'Beeb' best (slightly better than the 1965 box set one). I prefer the sound of the Vinyl boot, but unfortunately that is accompanied by the inevitable pop & clicks of vinyl boots. However it turned out that my tape was even better quality than At the Beeb and furthermore did not contain some of the imperfections now present in the sound of 'Beeb'. I then resolved to master my tape (when I had time) and spread it around. However circumstances have overtaken me with 'At the Beeb' CD being treed. While I have no desire to discourage people signing up for this tree, I am aware that a better source is available and would be preferred to 'Beeb'. ---------------------------------------- Hello to all, I hope to not offend the seeder of this set but I would like to warn people that the SHN LK version of the Beeb 65 broadcasts is corrupted (probably due to a bad transfer analog->HDD). Please note that I didn't download the torrent and compared it to my version but mine has been seeded directly by Les Kokay. Here's my review of the recording: Presumably better than "At the Beeb" bootleg CD but certainly NOT, in my opinion. If this recording doesn't have the heavy hum that was present on "Beeb" bootleg throughout most of the track 01, on the other hand it contains MANY flaws that are NOT on "Beeb" bootleg CD. In fact, all tracks of the Les Kokay version (except track 8) are surfaced with clicks/pops or slight skips. Personally, I would discourage you to trade for this version and would recommend you to find the "At The Beeb" (Mainstream) bootleg CD instead, much more enjoyable, still in my opinion. So, below is a list of the most audible surface noise I noticed while I was listening to the Les Kokay version (original SHN set, md5's above). They could be the result of a bad CD extraction or an incorrect HDD .wav reading/writing while tape transfer (I don't know). All I know is that noises I heard are not supposed to be there! *Remember, none of these flaws are present on the "Beeb" bootleg CD* List of clicks/pops/skips: Track 1 0:22 Track 2 0:04 1:16 4:29-4:30 5:03 Track 3 0:50 2:34 3:10 4:21 4:29 4:57-4:58 6:10 6:47 Track 4 1:22-1:23 (slight skips) 2:00 Track 5 1:48 2:27 3:07 4:27 to 4:30 5:00 5:08 5:49 Track 6 1:26 1:30 3:18 3:25 Track 7 0:45-0:46 1:04 1:31 2:34 Track 8 (none?) Track 9 0:06 0:26 0:43 2:31 6:42 (skip) Track 10 2:33 2:40 4:44 Track 11 1:43 Track 12 1:15 2:10 2:56 3:58 4:18 (click on right channel) other flaw: The first track in the original SHN set distributed via dylantree.com has a sector boundary error. questions or comments email livecohen@hotmail.com Note: an actual PA recording of the BBC 65 show has recently been located. Here the taper recorded directly from the TV, rather than using a mic in front of the TV (Thanks to Les Kokay for the info!). TO JEFFERSON: could you please verify if your copy does contain the flaws mentionned above. Maybe someone has corrected the flaws somewhere in the line... It's curious because the LK version has widely circulated but no one seems to care about those flaws. all the best, J-F ---------------------------------------- jefferson: Thanks for the info, liveman. I have given the disc a quick listen and do, in fact, hear some (but not all) of the particulars you mention. Not sure whether they are due to surface noise present at the source or were introduced during the transfer. Either way, I think we can say with confidence that LK's version is different than "At the Beeb." Some say better (LK). Others say not (liveman). These are subjective judgments and i always encourage each individual listener to put their own ears to the test. Your "do not trade" is, in my view, an extreme position. Personally, i appreciate the "sonic warmth" of LK's upgrade. But that's just me. Whatever the case, if someone has re-worked and smoothed out these tracks, i would love to hear it. And the PA source would be especially grande. Regards, Jeff